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Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 14:51
by bergenga
Here I will post some requests for adding vehicle types that I find missing. Not sure if this is the best subforum for this thread, but I find it most related at least. I could post these requests directly to the admins, but since this is an open community webplace, I find it better to do it here, so anybody can have their say at it.

This first time I will take a look at Scania K-chassises. Earlier it was simple with just K114 and K124, but now when they instead use the number of horsepowers, it gets quite a lot of different ones. As of yet I can only find K340 and K380, but in Norway there are quite a lot of buses with more than 400 hp. The most common among express coaches is K420, so that's absolutely one needed. But there are a few ones with K470 too. And in the last year we have also seen K400 and K480. K480 are there only known to be two of in Norway, and I read a report about one in Australia, otherwise they are probably quite rare, but they do exist. My guess is though that they have replaced the K470, but still they are not exact the same.
Then there would be a need to add K400, K420, K470 and K480.
(So far I have added a lot of these buses under K380, which is the closest I found.)

Or alternatively it would be better to sort them by chassi type, rather than power. Currently there are three different types of K-chassi: K___UB (low entry), K___IB (normal floor, stiff front axle) and K___EB (normal floor, independent front axle). At least in Norway this would tell a lot more about what kind of bus it is and what kind of traffic it is made for. In Norway you will mostly find IB on local/regional routes and shorter express coach routes, while almost all longer express coach routes and on tourist coaches you will find EB.
I know that the K3x0UB have their own type already (and even the quite odd K380UB fits in there), but what about adding the IB and EB types too?
Of course the admin(s) have to decide on this, but if you have an opinion on it, it would be nice to see what you think.



Could also mention Volvo. They are quite soon coming with their B13 engine, which probably will be named B13R, but I haven't heard any official information yet. Still there are only known to be a few test buses around, so there is no hurry to add the type. (There is at least one on test in express coach traffic in Norway, which is rebuilt from a B12B chassis.)

Re: Some vehicle type requests

Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 22:26
by bergenga
I googled a bit more myself, and found that Scania recently adjusted their system with new power outputs. They now have K480, K440, K400, K360, K320, etc., while the old system was K470, K420, K380, K340, K310, etc..
This makes it even more a reason for using K EB and K IB, instead of having a forest of different types. At least that is my opinion. :)

Scania!!

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 14:18
by decomposed05
bergenga wrote:I googled a bit more myself, and found that Scania recently adjusted their system with new power outputs. They now have K480, K440, K400, K360, K320, etc., while the old system was K470, K420, K380, K340, K310, etc..
This makes it even more a reason for using K EB and K IB, instead of having a forest of different types. At least that is my opinion. :)
Hi
I'm not familiar with this types of buses. Lets see if somebody take part in this discussion.

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 26 Aug 2009, 16:58
by Mati Domin
Korzystając z tematu o Scaniach i pochodnych:
http://phototrans.eu/14,350740,0,Scania ... M_249.html
Mógłby ktoś potwierdzić poprawność modelu, ew. wskazać właściwy?

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 20:34
by i.nalezniak
Korzystając z tematu mam pytanie odnośnie podtypu krakowskich Scanii. Na tabliczce znamionowej jest napisane "CN94UB 4x2 EB 220". W większości Scanii podtypy są wpisywane jako "4x2 EB" itp. Jak wpisać w przypadku tego modelu?

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 24 Oct 2009, 12:26
by OmniCity
i.nalezniak wrote:Korzystając z tematu mam pytanie odnośnie podtypu krakowskich Scanii. Na tabliczce znamionowej jest napisane "CN94UB 4x2 EB 220". W większości Scanii podtypy są wpisywane jako "4x2 EB" itp. Jak wpisać w przypadku tego modelu?
Wydaje mi się, że w tym wypadku nie ma sensu wpisywać "Scania CN94UB 4x2 EB 220", tylko Scania CN94UB 4x2 EB.

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 24 Oct 2009, 14:53
by TMSA
OmniCity wrote:
i.nalezniak wrote:Korzystając z tematu mam pytanie odnośnie podtypu krakowskich Scanii. Na tabliczce znamionowej jest napisane "CN94UB 4x2 EB 220". W większości Scanii podtypy są wpisywane jako "4x2 EB" itp. Jak wpisać w przypadku tego modelu?
Wydaje mi się, że w tym wypadku nie ma sensu wpisywać "Scania CN94UB 4x2 EB 220", tylko Scania CN94UB 4x2 EB.
A ja bym już tego nie ruszał, bo nie wiadomo jak dokładnie oznaczano ówczesne CN94UB. Niektóre mogą mieć inne wpisy i już będzie wielka awantura z tego tytułu. Stare skakanki zostawmy w spokoju.

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 19:29
by OmniCity
Robie ogólny porządek z wozami Scanii i mam takie pytanko - czy do starych typów (tzn. ze starym wyglądem) Scanii wpisujemy także np. Scania CL94UB 4x2 LB czy samo Scania CL94UB 4x2?

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 19:36
by empi
OmniCity wrote:Robie ogólny porządek z wozami Scanii i mam takie pytanko - czy do starych typów (tzn. ze starym wyglądem) Scanii wpisujemy także np. Scania CL94UB 4x2 LB czy samo Scania CL94UB 4x2?
Proponuję, żebyś sprecyzował na czym polegać ma ogólny porządek z wozami Scanii...

Re: Oznaczenia Scania!!

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 21:13
by TMSA
Serii CN i CL94UB nie dotykać. Najpierw trzeba dokładnie ustalić jak to z nimi było, bo za chwilę okaże się, że każda CL94UB ma co innego wpisane w typie w zależności od "widzimisie" producenta i wyjdą pierdoły.