Setra models

[bergenga]

S110, S120, S130, S140, S150 - without changes, there aren't a lot of them on TWB database
S208 H
S209 H
S210 H, S210 HD
S211 H, S211 HD
S212 H
S213 H, S213 UL, S213 RL
S214 HD
S215 H, S215 HD, S215 HR, S215 RL, S215 UL, S215 SL, S215 NF, S215 HDH/3

I don't know much about so old Setra models, but my idea to categorize them based on all different types I could find and looking at pictures how high they are and how they are built, here is my suggestion:

S 20x H
- S 208 H, S 209 H
- S 208 HM, S 209 HM

S 21x H
- S 210 H, S 211 H, S 212 H, S 213 H, S 215 H
- S 213 HR, S 215 HR
- S 215 HR-GT
- S 215 HM

S 21x UL
- S 213 UL, S 215 UL
- S 213 RL, S 215 RL

S 21x SL
- S 215 SL
- S 215 NR, S 217 NR

The 20x H and 21x H could probably be in same category, but those 208 and 209 are very short.
The HD, HDS and HDH are okay as they are now. Also the SG (articulated) models are probably okay as they are.

There is also another model that is somewhere between 200 and 300 series, which is S 300 NC. I forgot to mention it earlier.

What is the difference between: S315 H and S315 UL, S315 HD and S315 GT-HD?

S 315 H and S 315 UL are probably very much the same, just like the S 415 H of today is a S 415 UL with a higher floor. (No external differences beside the name.)
S 315 GT-HD is the predecessor of S 415 GT-HD, and S 315 HD is the predecessor of S 415 HD. It's as simple as that. The HD is both a bit higher than the GT-HD, but it is also much more a full-breed tourist coach, while the GT-HD is more like a express coach or a tourist coach for shorter trips. You can actually get the GT-HD as a 5-star tourist coach, but that is very rare.

[empi]

What is the difference between: S315 H and S315 UL, S315 HD and S315 GT-HD?

S 315 H and S 315 UL are probably very much the same, just like the S 415 H of today is a S 415 UL with a higher floor. (No external differences beside the name.)

If their construction is the same we should put them together into one category - S315 H/UL. We create categories not for different versions of inside, but for different constructions - so the point is to separate buses of the same line but different length, height or floor level.

The same with S200 - what is the difference between:
S2xx H and HM?
HR and HR-GT?

[empi]

Ok. I will try to do this in this way.

Pytanie natury technicznej: będziesz to robił jakoś z automatu, czy mamy zabierać się do pracy? Chyba jednak lepiej będzie ręcznie.

Widzę, że coś już się pozmieniało, ale wozy i tak są przemieszane - poza tym to tak ma być, żeby 10, 11, 12 i 13,7 i 15 metrowe autobusy były w jednej kategorii S31x HD?

[decomposed05]

i've done some categories and made little movement. But I think that there is a lot things to do - for example with S300, S309 and other setra models.

[bergenga]

400-series:
I've looked through all of them, and only thing wrong is the name "S411 HDH", which should be "S411 HD".

300-series:
All buses sorted, except some S315 NF and unknown "S315" found in the S31x HDH category (former S315). They were so many so I got fed up and did something else.

200-series:
All categories sorted except "S21x HD" (former S215), where there is a lot to do.
The following should be done:
S209 -> rename "S20x H"
S210 -> rename "S21x H"
S211 -> rename "S215 SL"
S208 and S212 are obsolete.

Notice: I have changed my suggestion in my last post so that "S21x RL" are together with S21x UL. This looks more correct, but I do not know if it is.

[decomposed05]

Ok. Lets put on ice this two (?) Setra (Sindbad and one foreign)

[bergenga]

Ok. Lets put on ice this two (?) Setra (Sindbad and one foreign)

Hmm. I don't quite understand what you mean.


Anyway, now all Setra are sorted. Those that were only labeled like "S215" and where I did not find out exactly which model they were, I renamed to "S215 ??" and put them in the category that looked most correct. I am sorry that I don't know much about the 200-series, but there are not many left up here as they are getting pretty old by now.

Thanks for fixing this! The wrong categorizing of Setra has annoyed me since I first registered here, so now I am happy!

[decomposed05]

Hmm. I don't quite understand what you mean.

I tried to say - that we can do nothing with this and we must wait for more information and till then it must stay as it is.

Anyway, now all Setra are sorted. Those that were only labeled like "S215" and where I did not find out exactly which model they were, I renamed to "S215 ??" and put them in the category that looked most correct. I am sorry that I don't know much about the 200-series, but there are not many left up here as they are getting pretty old by now.

Thanks for fixing this! The wrong categorizing of Setra has annoyed me since I first registered here, so now I am happy!

Thanks for input too..
We have a lot of Setra S2xx here so we will see.

[Steffen]

Poprawcie kategorię S31x UL w Gryfie: http://phototrans.eu/2415,180,1858,0,f.html - obejmuje ona tylko "stare" S313, w karcie zdjęć danego typu jest wszystko wporzo.